Warriors vs. Lakers Box Score, April 9, 2024

Line Score

	1H	2H	T
GSW	71	63	134
LAL	60	60	120

Game Info

Start: 7:00 PM ET

Betting

Records: GSW 1-0 · LAL 0-1 (going into the game)
Rest: GSW 1 day · LAL 1 day
Spread: LAL -2.5 (GSW covered by 16.5)
Total: 235 (Over by 19)

Team Stats

Basic

Team	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
GSW	240	47	80	.588	26	41	.634	14	21	.667	4	38	42	37	3	12	15	17	134
LAL	240	44	96	.458	12	35	.343	20	24	.833	10	30	40	31	8	3	7	14	120

Stat	GSW	LAL
MP	240	240
FG	47	44
FGA	80	96
FG%	.588	.458
3P	26	12
3PA	41	35
3P%	.634	.343
FT	14	20
FTA	21	24
FT%	.667	.833
ORB	4	10
DRB	38	30
TRB	42	40
AST	37	31
STL	3	8
BLK	12	3
TOV	15	7
PF	17	14
PTS	134	120

Advanced

Team	TS%	eFG%	3PAr	FTr	ORB%	DRB%	TRB%	AST%	STL%	BLK%	TOV%	ORtg	DRtg
GSW	.751	.750	.513	.263	11.8	79.2	51.2	78.7	3.0	19.7	14.4	133.8	119.8
LAL	.563	.521	.365	.250	20.8	88.2	48.8	70.5	8.0	7.7	6.2	119.8	133.8

Stat	GSW	LAL
TS%	.751	.563
eFG%	.750	.521
3PAr	.513	.365
FTr	.263	.250
ORB%	11.8	20.8
DRB%	79.2	88.2
TRB%	51.2	48.8
AST%	78.7	70.5
STL%	3.0	8.0
BLK%	19.7	7.7
TOV%	14.4	6.2
ORtg	133.8	119.8
DRtg	119.8	133.8

Four Factors

Team	Pace	eFG%	TOV%	ORB%	FT/FGA	ORtg
GSW	100.1	.750	14.4	11.8	.175	133.8
LAL	100.1	.521	6.2	20.8	.208	119.8

Stat	GSW	LAL
Pace	100.1	100.1
eFG%	.750	.521
TOV%	14.4	6.2
ORB%	11.8	20.8
FT/FGA	.175	.208
ORtg	133.8	119.8

Warriors

Starters	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	GmSc	+/-
Klay Thompson	33:00	10	16	.625	5	10	.500	2	2	1.000	0	0	0	3	1	1	2	2	27	20.8	+11
Stephen Curry	32:19	7	9	.778	6	6	1.000	3	4	.750	0	7	7	8	1	2	1	2	23	27.4	+13
Draymond Green	32:10	5	7	.714	5	7	.714	0	2	.000	0	6	6	10	0	1	4	2	15	16.0	+11
Andrew Wiggins	28:32	7	12	.583	3	5	.600	0	0		1	3	4	0	0	3	0	3	17	13.9	+10
Trayce Jackson-Davis	24:44	2	5	.400	0	0		3	5	.600	2	5	7	0	0	3	1	0	7	7.5	-1
Reserves	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	GmSc	+/-
Chris Paul	24:57	5	10	.500	1	4	.250	0	0		0	6	6	9	0	0	3	2	11	10.3	+21
Jonathan Kuminga	21:25	2	8	.250	1	3	.333	3	4	.750	0	6	6	3	1	0	0	3	8	6.5	+10
Brandin Podziemski	20:21	5	6	.833	3	3	1.000	0	0		1	2	3	2	0	0	1	0	13	12.5	+4
Gary Payton II	13:37	3	6	.500	2	3	.667	1	2	.500	0	1	1	1	0	1	1	2	9	5.5	+1
Moses Moody	1:47	0	0		0	0		0	0		0	1	1	1	0	0	1	0	0	0.0	-2
Usman Garuba	1:47	0	0		0	0		0	0		0	0	0	0	0	1	1	0	0	-0.3	-2
Gui Santos	1:47	1	1	1.000	0	0		0	0		0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	1.7	-2
Lester Quinones	1:47	0	0		0	0		2	2	1.000	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	2	2.3	-2
Pat Spencer	1:47	0	0		0	0		0	0		0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	-0.4	-2
Kevon Looney	Did Not Play
Team Totals	240	47	80	.588	26	41	.634	14	21	.667	4	38	42	37	3	12	15	17	134

Shooting

Starters	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%
K. Thompson	33:00	10	16	.625	5	10	.500
S. Curry	32:19	7	9	.778	6	6	1.000
D. Green	32:10	5	7	.714	5	7	.714
A. Wiggins	28:32	7	12	.583	3	5	.600
T. Jackson-Davis	24:44	2	5	.400	0	0
Reserves	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%
C. Paul	24:57	5	10	.500	1	4	.250
J. Kuminga	21:25	2	8	.250	1	3	.333
B. Podziemski	20:21	5	6	.833	3	3	1.000
G. Payton II	13:37	3	6	.500	2	3	.667
M. Moody	1:47	0	0		0	0
U. Garuba	1:47	0	0		0	0
G. Santos	1:47	1	1	1.000	0	0
L. Quinones	1:47	0	0		0	0
P. Spencer	1:47	0	0		0	0
K. Looney	Did Not Play
Team	240	47	80	.588	26	41	.634

Free Throws & Rebounds

Starters	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB
K. Thompson	2	2	1.000	0	0	0
S. Curry	3	4	.750	0	7	7
D. Green	0	2	.000	0	6	6
A. Wiggins	0	0		1	3	4
T. Jackson-Davis	3	5	.600	2	5	7
Reserves	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB
C. Paul	0	0		0	6	6
J. Kuminga	3	4	.750	0	6	6
B. Podziemski	0	0		1	2	3
G. Payton II	1	2	.500	0	1	1
M. Moody	0	0		0	1	1
U. Garuba	0	0		0	0	0
G. Santos	0	0		0	0	0
L. Quinones	2	2	1.000	0	1	1
P. Spencer	0	0		0	0	0
K. Looney	Did Not Play
Team	14	21	.667	4	38	42

Playmaking & Scoring

Starters	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	GmSc	+/-
K. Thompson	3	1	1	2	2	27	20.8	+11
S. Curry	8	1	2	1	2	23	27.4	+13
D. Green	10	0	1	4	2	15	16.0	+11
A. Wiggins	0	0	3	0	3	17	13.9	+10
T. Jackson-Davis	0	0	3	1	0	7	7.5	-1
Reserves	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	GmSc	+/-
C. Paul	9	0	0	3	2	11	10.3	+21
J. Kuminga	3	1	0	0	3	8	6.5	+10
B. Podziemski	2	0	0	1	0	13	12.5	+4
G. Payton II	1	0	1	1	2	9	5.5	+1
M. Moody	1	0	0	1	0	0	0.0	-2
U. Garuba	0	0	1	1	0	0	-0.3	-2
G. Santos	0	0	0	0	0	2	1.7	-2
L. Quinones	0	0	0	0	0	2	2.3	-2
P. Spencer	0	0	0	0	1	0	-0.4	-2
K. Looney	Did Not Play
Team	37	3	12	15	17	134

Starters	MP	TS%	eFG%	3PAr	FTr	ORB%	DRB%	TRB%	AST%	STL%	BLK%	TOV%	USG%	ORtg	DRtg
Klay Thompson	33:00	.800	.781	.625	.125	0.0	0.0	0.0	13.4	1.5	2.4	10.6	26.3	139.1	125.0
Stephen Curry	32:19	1.069	1.111	.667	.444	0.0	21.7	12.7	32.5	1.5	4.9	8.5	16.8	137.9	114.7
Draymond Green	32:10	.952	1.071	1.000	.286	0.0	18.7	10.9	37.7	0.0	2.4	33.7	17.0	135.8	117.6
Andrew Wiggins	28:32	.708	.708	.417	.000	4.9	10.5	8.2	0.0	0.0	8.3	0.0	19.4	133.3	116.7
Trayce Jackson-Davis	24:44	.486	.400	.000	1.000	11.4	20.2	16.6	0.0	0.0	9.5	12.2	15.3	112.7	116.7
Reserves	MP	TS%	eFG%	3PAr	FTr	ORB%	DRB%	TRB%	AST%	STL%	BLK%	TOV%	USG%	ORtg	DRtg
Chris Paul	24:57	.550	.550	.400	.000	0.0	24.0	14.1	46.3	0.0	0.0	23.1	24.0	140.4	102.0
Jonathan Kuminga	21:25	.410	.313	.375	.500	0.0	28.0	16.4	15.8	2.2	0.0	0.0	21.0	137.0	115.2
Brandin Podziemski	20:21	1.083	1.083	.500	.000	6.9	9.8	8.6	13.4	0.0	0.0	14.3	15.8	131.8	122.7
Gary Payton II	13:37	.654	.667	.500	.333	0.0	7.3	4.3	9.7	0.0	5.8	12.7	26.6	124.1	112.9
Moses Moody	1:47					0.0	56.2	32.9	57.4	0.0	0.0	100.0	25.9	80.0	150.0
Usman Garuba	1:47					0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	44.2	100.0	25.9	80.0	150.0
Gui Santos	1:47	1.000	1.000	.000	.000	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	25.9	80.0	150.0
Lester Quinones	1:47	1.136				0.0	56.2	32.9	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	22.8	80.0	150.0
Pat Spencer	1:47					0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0		0.0	80.0	150.0
Kevon Looney	Did Not Play
Team Totals	240	.751	.750	.513	.263	11.8	79.2	51.2	78.7	3.0	19.7	14.4	100.0	133.8	119.8

Shooting

Starters	MP	TS%	eFG%	3PAr	FTr
K. Thompson	33:00	.800	.781	.625	.125
S. Curry	32:19	1.069	1.111	.667	.444
D. Green	32:10	.952	1.071	1.000	.286
A. Wiggins	28:32	.708	.708	.417	.000
T. Jackson-Davis	24:44	.486	.400	.000	1.000
Reserves	MP	TS%	eFG%	3PAr	FTr
C. Paul	24:57	.550	.550	.400	.000
J. Kuminga	21:25	.410	.313	.375	.500
B. Podziemski	20:21	1.083	1.083	.500	.000
G. Payton II	13:37	.654	.667	.500	.333
M. Moody	1:47
U. Garuba	1:47
G. Santos	1:47	1.000	1.000	.000	.000
L. Quinones	1:47	1.136
P. Spencer	1:47
K. Looney	Did Not Play
Team	240	.751	.750	.513	.263

Rebounding & Playmaking

Starters	ORB%	DRB%	TRB%	AST%	STL%
K. Thompson	0.0	0.0	0.0	13.4	1.5
S. Curry	0.0	21.7	12.7	32.5	1.5
D. Green	0.0	18.7	10.9	37.7	0.0
A. Wiggins	4.9	10.5	8.2	0.0	0.0
T. Jackson-Davis	11.4	20.2	16.6	0.0	0.0
Reserves	ORB%	DRB%	TRB%	AST%	STL%
C. Paul	0.0	24.0	14.1	46.3	0.0
J. Kuminga	0.0	28.0	16.4	15.8	2.2
B. Podziemski	6.9	9.8	8.6	13.4	0.0
G. Payton II	0.0	7.3	4.3	9.7	0.0
M. Moody	0.0	56.2	32.9	57.4	0.0
U. Garuba	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0
G. Santos	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0
L. Quinones	0.0	56.2	32.9	0.0	0.0
P. Spencer	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0
K. Looney	Did Not Play
Team	11.8	79.2	51.2	78.7	3.0

Defense, Usage & Ratings

Starters	BLK%	TOV%	USG%	ORtg	DRtg
K. Thompson	2.4	10.6	26.3	139.1	125.0
S. Curry	4.9	8.5	16.8	137.9	114.7
D. Green	2.4	33.7	17.0	135.8	117.6
A. Wiggins	8.3	0.0	19.4	133.3	116.7
T. Jackson-Davis	9.5	12.2	15.3	112.7	116.7
Reserves	BLK%	TOV%	USG%	ORtg	DRtg
C. Paul	0.0	23.1	24.0	140.4	102.0
J. Kuminga	0.0	0.0	21.0	137.0	115.2
B. Podziemski	0.0	14.3	15.8	131.8	122.7
G. Payton II	5.8	12.7	26.6	124.1	112.9
M. Moody	0.0	100.0	25.9	80.0	150.0
U. Garuba	44.2	100.0	25.9	80.0	150.0
G. Santos	0.0	0.0	25.9	80.0	150.0
L. Quinones	0.0	0.0	22.8	80.0	150.0
P. Spencer	0.0		0.0	80.0	150.0
K. Looney	Did Not Play
Team	19.7	14.4	100.0	133.8	119.8

Lakers

Starters	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	GmSc	+/-
D'Angelo Russell	37:01	3	11	.273	2	7	.286	6	6	1.000	0	2	2	7	0	0	0	2	14	12.2	-11
LeBron James	35:32	14	22	.636	1	3	.333	4	5	.800	1	6	7	11	2	0	4	0	33	31.0	-6
Austin Reaves	34:54	8	15	.533	4	7	.571	2	3	.667	3	4	7	6	0	0	0	3	22	20.6	0
Rui Hachimura	30:52	7	21	.333	2	7	.286	4	4	1.000	2	9	11	2	1	2	0	0	20	16.0	-6
Jaxson Hayes	28:19	5	6	.833	0	0		1	2	.500	3	3	6	1	1	1	2	4	11	10.2	-7
Reserves	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	GmSc	+/-
Spencer Dinwiddie	22:23	4	7	.571	3	5	.600	1	1	1.000	0	4	4	0	0	0	0	1	12	9.5	-13
Taurean Prince	18:48	1	6	.167	0	3	.000	0	0		0	1	1	0	1	0	0	1	2	-0.9	-18
Gabe Vincent	15:29	0	3	.000	0	3	.000	0	0		0	1	1	1	2	0	1	1	0	-0.5	-14
Cam Reddish	9:34	0	2	.000	0	0		0	0		0	0	0	1	0	0	0	1	0	-1.1	-3
Skylar Mays	1:47	0	0		0	0		0	0		0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0.7	+2
Max Christie	1:47	1	1	1.000	0	0		0	0		0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	1.7	+2
Colin Castleton	1:47	1	2	.500	0	0		0	0		1	0	1	0	1	0	0	0	2	2.7	+2
Maxwell Lewis	1:47	0	0		0	0		2	3	.667	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	1	2	1.9	+2
Anthony Davis	Not With Team
Team Totals	240	44	96	.458	12	35	.343	20	24	.833	10	30	40	31	8	3	7	14	120

Shooting

Starters	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%
D. Russell	37:01	3	11	.273	2	7	.286
L. James	35:32	14	22	.636	1	3	.333
A. Reaves	34:54	8	15	.533	4	7	.571
R. Hachimura	30:52	7	21	.333	2	7	.286
J. Hayes	28:19	5	6	.833	0	0
Reserves	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%
S. Dinwiddie	22:23	4	7	.571	3	5	.600
T. Prince	18:48	1	6	.167	0	3	.000
G. Vincent	15:29	0	3	.000	0	3	.000
C. Reddish	9:34	0	2	.000	0	0
S. Mays	1:47	0	0		0	0
M. Christie	1:47	1	1	1.000	0	0
C. Castleton	1:47	1	2	.500	0	0
M. Lewis	1:47	0	0		0	0
A. Davis	Not With Team
Team	240	44	96	.458	12	35	.343

Free Throws & Rebounds

Starters	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB
D. Russell	6	6	1.000	0	2	2
L. James	4	5	.800	1	6	7
A. Reaves	2	3	.667	3	4	7
R. Hachimura	4	4	1.000	2	9	11
J. Hayes	1	2	.500	3	3	6
Reserves	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB
S. Dinwiddie	1	1	1.000	0	4	4
T. Prince	0	0		0	1	1
G. Vincent	0	0		0	1	1
C. Reddish	0	0		0	0	0
S. Mays	0	0		0	0	0
M. Christie	0	0		0	0	0
C. Castleton	0	0		1	0	1
M. Lewis	2	3	.667	0	0	0
A. Davis	Not With Team
Team	20	24	.833	10	30	40

Playmaking & Scoring

Starters	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	GmSc	+/-
D. Russell	7	0	0	0	2	14	12.2	-11
L. James	11	2	0	4	0	33	31.0	-6
A. Reaves	6	0	0	0	3	22	20.6	0
R. Hachimura	2	1	2	0	0	20	16.0	-6
J. Hayes	1	1	1	2	4	11	10.2	-7
Reserves	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	GmSc	+/-
S. Dinwiddie	0	0	0	0	1	12	9.5	-13
T. Prince	0	1	0	0	1	2	-0.9	-18
G. Vincent	1	2	0	1	1	0	-0.5	-14
C. Reddish	1	0	0	0	1	0	-1.1	-3
S. Mays	1	0	0	0	0	0	0.7	+2
M. Christie	0	0	0	0	0	2	1.7	+2
C. Castleton	0	1	0	0	0	2	2.7	+2
M. Lewis	1	0	0	0	1	2	1.9	+2
A. Davis	Not With Team
Team	31	8	3	7	14	120

Starters	MP	TS%	eFG%	3PAr	FTr	ORB%	DRB%	TRB%	AST%	STL%	BLK%	TOV%	USG%	ORtg	DRtg
D'Angelo Russell	37:01	.513	.364	.636	.545	0.0	7.6	3.2	22.6	0.0	0.0	0.0	15.6	128.6	142.9
LeBron James	35:32	.682	.659	.136	.227	2.8	23.8	11.5	59.2	2.7	0.0	14.2	33.5	112.3	122.2
Austin Reaves	34:54	.674	.667	.467	.200	8.6	16.2	11.7	25.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	19.8	119.2	119.2
Rui Hachimura	30:52	.439	.381	.333	.190	6.5	41.2	20.9	9.4	1.6	8.0	0.0	31.2	115.2	124.2
Jaxson Hayes	28:19	.799	.833	.000	.333	10.6	15.0	12.4	4.8	1.7	4.3	22.5	13.3	131.7	143.3
Reserves	MP	TS%	eFG%	3PAr	FTr	ORB%	DRB%	TRB%	AST%	STL%	BLK%	TOV%	USG%	ORtg	DRtg
Spencer Dinwiddie	22:23	.806	.786	.714	.143	0.0	25.2	10.5	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	14.1	120.8	147.9
Taurean Prince	18:48	.167	.167	.500	.000	0.0	7.5	3.1	0.0	2.5	0.0	0.0	13.5	107.5	152.5
Gabe Vincent	15:29	.000	.000	1.000	.000	0.0	9.1	3.8	7.0	6.2	0.0	25.0	10.9	87.5	135.5
Cam Reddish	9:34	.000	.000	.000	.000	0.0	0.0	0.0	11.4	0.0	0.0	0.0	8.8	104.3	117.4
Skylar Mays	1:47					0.0	0.0	0.0	61.3	0.0	0.0		0.0	150.0	80.0
Max Christie	1:47	1.000	1.000	.000	.000	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	23.7	150.0	80.0
Colin Castleton	1:47	.500	.500	.000	.000	56.2	0.0	32.9	0.0	26.9	0.0	0.0	47.5	150.0	80.0
Maxwell Lewis	1:47	.758				0.0	0.0	0.0	61.3	0.0	0.0	0.0	31.3	150.0	80.0
Anthony Davis	Not With Team
Team Totals	240	.563	.521	.365	.250	20.8	88.2	48.8	70.5	8.0	7.7	6.2	100.0	119.8	133.8

Shooting

Starters	MP	TS%	eFG%	3PAr	FTr
D. Russell	37:01	.513	.364	.636	.545
L. James	35:32	.682	.659	.136	.227
A. Reaves	34:54	.674	.667	.467	.200
R. Hachimura	30:52	.439	.381	.333	.190
J. Hayes	28:19	.799	.833	.000	.333
Reserves	MP	TS%	eFG%	3PAr	FTr
S. Dinwiddie	22:23	.806	.786	.714	.143
T. Prince	18:48	.167	.167	.500	.000
G. Vincent	15:29	.000	.000	1.000	.000
C. Reddish	9:34	.000	.000	.000	.000
S. Mays	1:47
M. Christie	1:47	1.000	1.000	.000	.000
C. Castleton	1:47	.500	.500	.000	.000
M. Lewis	1:47	.758
A. Davis	Not With Team
Team	240	.563	.521	.365	.250

Rebounding & Playmaking

Starters	ORB%	DRB%	TRB%	AST%	STL%
D. Russell	0.0	7.6	3.2	22.6	0.0
L. James	2.8	23.8	11.5	59.2	2.7
A. Reaves	8.6	16.2	11.7	25.0	0.0
R. Hachimura	6.5	41.2	20.9	9.4	1.6
J. Hayes	10.6	15.0	12.4	4.8	1.7
Reserves	ORB%	DRB%	TRB%	AST%	STL%
S. Dinwiddie	0.0	25.2	10.5	0.0	0.0
T. Prince	0.0	7.5	3.1	0.0	2.5
G. Vincent	0.0	9.1	3.8	7.0	6.2
C. Reddish	0.0	0.0	0.0	11.4	0.0
S. Mays	0.0	0.0	0.0	61.3	0.0
M. Christie	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0
C. Castleton	56.2	0.0	32.9	0.0	26.9
M. Lewis	0.0	0.0	0.0	61.3	0.0
A. Davis	Not With Team
Team	20.8	88.2	48.8	70.5	8.0

Defense, Usage & Ratings

Starters	BLK%	TOV%	USG%	ORtg	DRtg
D. Russell	0.0	0.0	15.6	128.6	142.9
L. James	0.0	14.2	33.5	112.3	122.2
A. Reaves	0.0	0.0	19.8	119.2	119.2
R. Hachimura	8.0	0.0	31.2	115.2	124.2
J. Hayes	4.3	22.5	13.3	131.7	143.3
Reserves	BLK%	TOV%	USG%	ORtg	DRtg
S. Dinwiddie	0.0	0.0	14.1	120.8	147.9
T. Prince	0.0	0.0	13.5	107.5	152.5
G. Vincent	0.0	25.0	10.9	87.5	135.5
C. Reddish	0.0	0.0	8.8	104.3	117.4
S. Mays	0.0		0.0	150.0	80.0
M. Christie	0.0	0.0	23.7	150.0	80.0
C. Castleton	0.0	0.0	47.5	150.0	80.0
M. Lewis	0.0	0.0	31.3	150.0	80.0
A. Davis	Not With Team
Team	7.7	6.2	100.0	119.8	133.8

Inactive: GSW Jerome Robinson, Dario Saric LAL Harry Giles III, Jalen Hood-Schifino, Jarred Vanderbilt, Christian Wood

Possessions, pace and team ratings use our one possession count (the same as Team Profile on the matchup page), so they can differ slightly from other sites.